Where are the real bitcoiners gone?

Where are all the real bitcoiners who are passionate for the adoption of bitcoin and discussions on development in the open source project, etc.? I haven't seen any post here of in depth discussion or information on what's going on with bitcoin. It's all about the price action, ATH, memes, and stupid questions (will bitcoin die?, what's your exit strategy, etc.). Where have the real bitcoiners gone? Any other forum I should check out?